Christ takes on infirmities, we take on one another’s infirmities


Notes from tonight’s study group:

Alma 7:12 Christ takes upon him death, and infirmities…

Why “take upon”? Looked all over scripture, lots of tangents and thoughts.

But just now, we thought about how Christ’s taking upon himself something means he is in charge of taking it on (it’s his choice) but also he might take upon him authority over that thing. A mantle?

And then further, we can’t take upon ourselves mortality or infirmities, they are given to us. We feel ashamed. But in the covenant Alma’s people make, they covenant to bear one another’s burdens, mourn with those who mourn, and so forth. We can’t take upon us our own mortality, but we can take on someone else’s, and in that, we are Christlike.


Alma 7 – word, words


Hi! I have read Alma 7 twice in the past two days and been struck by the many times Alma talks about word, words, what the spirit saith, etc. For example:

“I attempt to address you in my language” v.1

“first time that I have spoken unto you by the words of my mouth” v.1

“I do not say that he will come among us at the time of his dwelling in his mortal tabernacle; for behold, the Spirit hath not said unto me that this should be the case” v.8

“this much I do know, that the Lord God hath power to do all things which are according to his word” v.8

“the Spirit hath said this much unto me…” v.9

[Note that the Spirit told him to prepare for God to come on the earth, and Alma knows that will be fulfilled, but what he doesn’t know is whether that means that God will come to them while he is on the earth or not. That is, I think verses 7 and 8 are dependent what he’s heard from the Spirit, which he lays out starting in verse 9.]

“for the Spirit saith if ye are not born again ye cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven” v.14

“the same will remember that I say unto him, yea, he will remember that I have said unto him, he shall have eternal life, according to the testimony of the Holy Spirit, which testifieth in me” v.16

“the way that I know that ye believe them is by the manifestation of the Spirit which is in me” v.17

“I perceive that it has been made known unto you, by the testimony of his word…” v.20

“I have spoken these words unto you according to the Spirit which testifieth in me” v.26


Mr. Gadianton? King Noah? Who is this guy?


It’s so weird to think of Mr. Trump being our president starting Friday.

I have no idea how to respond to that in any one specific way. I’m disgusted, disappointed, worried, aiming to ignore it all, looking to local community and the goodness here, curious, nervous, sad, enraged, and so on. In reality, I think we have a modern-day Gadianton Robber as our next president. I have no doubt that he used money, threats, bribes, and various evil-doing to get where he is today.

So, I’m reviewing a few choice passages from the Book of Mormon today. Probably not the happiest way to spend my scripture study time, but oh well:

Helaman 7:4-6

And seeing the people in a state of such awful wickedness, and those Gadianton robbers filling the judgment-seats—having usurped the power and authority of the land; laying aside the commandments of God, and not in the least aright before him; doing no justice unto the children of men;

Condemning the righteous because of their righteousness; letting the guilty and the wicked go unpunished because of their money; and moreover to be held in office at the head of government, to rule and do according to their wills, that they might get gain and glory of the world, and, moreover, that they might the more easily commit adultery, and steal, and kill, and do according to their own wills—

“Now this great iniquity had come upon the Nephites, in the space of not many years; and when Nephi saw it, his heart was swollen with sorrow within his breast; and he did exclaim in the agony of his soul…”

Helaman 13:27-28 (fortunately not everyone throws their money and support at him, but he acts like he thinks everyone should. And he certainly claims that what he does isn’t iniquity, and he shouldn’t suffer, and so on…)

“But behold, if a man shall come among you and shall say: Do this, and there is no iniquity; do that and ye shall not suffer; yea, he will say: Walk after the pride of your own hearts; yea, walk after the pride of your eyes, and do whatsoever your heart desireth—and if a man shall come among you and say this, ye will receive him, and say that he is a prophet.

“Yea, ye will lift him up, and ye will give unto him of your substance; ye will give unto him of your gold, and of your silver, and ye will clothe him with costly apparel; and because he speaketh flattering words unto you, and he saith that all is well, then ye will not find fault with him.”

Ether 8:20-25 (And this is too doom-and-gloomy, but I think there is a reason that Moroni said it. I don’t think we’re at this point yet, but if we don’t respond against people like Mr. Trump in the next four years, then we might be headed this way:)

“And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.

And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.

“And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.

Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain—and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.

Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.

“For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.”

Helaman 6:37-38 (I mean, this is the test right here:)

“And it came to pass that the Lamanites did hunt the band of robbers of Gadianton; and they did preach the word of God among the more wicked part of them, insomuch that this band of robbers was utterly destroyed from among the Lamanites.

“And it came to pass on the other hand, that the Nephites did build them up and support them, beginning at the more wicked part of them, until they had overspread all the land of the Nephites, and had seduced the more part of the righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of their spoils, and to join with them in their secret murders and combinations.”

Anyway, I think I’m going to call Mr. Trump either “Mr. Gadianton” or “King Noah” for the next few years. 🙂

(King Noah, in Mosiah 11:14 “And it came to pass that he placed his heart upon his riches, and he spent his time in riotous living with his wives and his concubines; and so did also his priests spend their time with harlots.”)


D&C 3 and the purpose of the Book of Mormon (similar to “wise purpose” elsewhere)


I have been looking at the “wise purposes” mentioned in the Book of Mormon and in D&C 10. This is similar but just doesn’t use the word “wise.” But in other passages and this one, the purpose is to fulfill God’s promise to bring the words of the Nephite prophets to the descendants of Lehi.

16 Nevertheless, my work shall go forth, for inasmuch as the knowledge of a Savior has come unto the world, through the testimony of the Jews, even so shall the knowledge of a Savior come unto my people—

 17 And to the Nephites, and the Jacobites, and the Josephites, and the Zoramites, through the testimony of their fathers—

 18 And this testimony shall come to the knowledge of the Lamanites, and the Lemuelites, and the Ishmaelites, who dwindled in unbelief because of the iniquity of their fathers, whom the Lord has suffered to destroy their brethren the Nephites, because of their iniquities and their abominations.

 19 And for this very purpose are these plates preserved, which contain these records—that the promises of the Lord might be fulfilled, which he made to his people;

 20 And that the Lamanites might come to the knowledge of their fathers, and that they might know the promises of the Lord, and that they may believe the gospel and rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ, and be glorified through faith in his name, and that through their repentance they might be saved. Amen.


quick thought about wisdom and scripture


D&C 42

 68 Therefore, he that lacketh wisdom, let him ask of me, and I will give him liberally and upbraid him not.

Hmmm In thinking about MSH paper and wisdom, I might want to think about the fact that the Book of Mormon authors refer to things as a “Wise purpose” that God has, and that they hope it means that scripture is given to Lamanites for the purpose of conversion,

And what if we heard, for fun, that when Joseph read the verse about wisdom and asked for it, he received scripture in response????


Story from chapter 10 “It will be all right. The Mormon women are here.”


This, this is interesting:

It’s from chapter 10 of Daughters In My Kingdom, about a women who received service as a teenager and then looked to her time serving in a RS Presidency as her turn to give service just as she had received it. This story comes in a series of experiences she shared:

“A young mother in the ward, one of my friends, suddenly lost her only child, a beautiful three-year-old daughter, to an infection that took her life before the doctors were even aware of how serious her illness was. The other counselor and I went to the house as soon as we heard of little Robin’s death. As we approached the screened patio door, we heard the father (who was not a member of the Church) sobbing as he talked long distance to his mother. Looking up, he saw us and, still sobbing, spoke into the phone: ‘It will be all right, Mother. The Mormon women are here.’ My turn once more.”

….

Also from Chapter 10:

The charge to lead out in everything that is praiseworthy, Godlike, uplifting, and purifying is a demanding one. It always has been. But individual Relief Society sisters are not alone in accepting this charge. They are part of a great organization, founded by priesthood authority and strengthened by the teachings and declarations of prophets. They are beloved daughters of God with sacred responsibilities. They are covenant people of the Lamb, “armed with righteousness and with the power of God in great glory.”15 As they unite with other faithful Saints and learn from the examples of those who have gone before, they can prevail over mortal challenges. They can help build the kingdom of God throughout the world and in their homes. They can say, “Now it is our turn—our turn to serve and write a chapter on the pages of Relief Society’s history.” With an assurance of Heavenly Father’s love for them and a testimony of the power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ, they can rise above ordinary thoughts and ambitions and be part of “something extraordinary.”16


Charity born of faith…


From Daughters In My Kingdom chapter 10:

President Henry B. Eyring, a counselor in the First Presidency, explained that this true charity is the legacy of Relief Society:

“I will speak to you … of the great legacy those who went before you in the Relief Society have passed on to you. The part … which seems to me most important and persistent is that charity is at the heart of the society and is to come into the heart, to be part of the very nature, of every member. Charity meant to them far more than a feeling of benevolence. Charity is born of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and is an effect of His Atonement working in the hearts of the members. …

“This society is composed of women whose feelings of charity spring from hearts changed by qualifying for and by keeping covenants offered only in the Lord’s true Church. Their feelings of charity come from Him through His Atonement. Their acts of charity are guided by His example—and come out of gratitude for His infinite gift of mercy—and by the Holy Spirit, which He sends to accompany His servants on their missions of mercy.”

This legacy of charity began with the sisters in Nauvoo, who engaged in organized charitable works and received temple covenants. It continued in Winter Quarters and along the arduous trail to the Salt Lake Valley. It sustained Latter-day Saint women as they settled frontier communities, endured political persecution and world wars, and maintained hope during economic depression. It has inspired loving-kindness at home and outreach efforts worldwide. It has motivated Relief Society sisters as they have served in hospitals and as they have helped with adoptions, wheat storage, humanitarian aid, and welfare. The pure love of Christ continues to motivate Relief Society sisters today as they gather to teach and serve one another and as they strengthen and watch over each other one by one.