Full circle: Why we don’t talk about when “not” to teach


I started my research on D&C 42:14 specifically because I was curious (baffled) that no one ever talked about the fact that the verse says there are times to not teach! Searching through lds.org I couldn’t really find any references that suggested we should actually stop teaching if the Spirit wasn’t there. Any talk on teaching by the Spirit will almost inevitably quote D&C 42:14, but never addresses this sharp and unusual command to not teach.

For examples, in my original conference paper, I quoted a Church News article on teaching which quoted that verse and went right on to talk about teacher preparation. I also found a talk by Elder Oaks that was almost too perfect for what I wanted to say. He says that we use D&C 42 and D&C 50 so much that “They are so familiar they are almost slogans, yet we are in danger of using them without understanding them.”

But even Elder Oaks doesn’t suggest that we should stop teaching if the Spirit doesn’t come. As far as I looked, I could not see anyone who actually suggested anyone should “not teach.” Rather, the focus is on being worthy of the Spirit, and why teaching without it is so much less effective. I suppose you could say most talks focus on talking us into using the Spirit, and explain how and why we should be worthy to receive the Spirit.

But still, no one addresses this possibility that D&C 42:14 opens up: what if the Spirit does not come?

I wonder why no one ever addresses this? My first assumption is that we as a people (and me included!) are often unsure of what the Spirit feels like, at least to the extent that we could say for sure that the Spirit wasn’t with us.

This being the case, it would serve little purpose to address this verse in its full weight directly head on.

But in addition, after all of my recent research, I think I would add one more perspective on this. In my last post I mentioned that all three of my interpretive ideas could come down to one thing: nothing works unless you are pure, clean, and worthy. The promise of being able to pray and receive spirits unless they are not of God only comes to those who are pure and sanctified. So even if I go that route and pick D&C 50 as the interpretive key to D&C 42:14, it still comes down to being worthy of the promise. If I pick the route of interpreting through D&C 20 and Moroni, then problem is still the same: how can a leader know how to conduct a meeting by the Spirit? Only if they are worthy of the Spirit. And if we see the “not” receiving the Spirit as a lack of the faith mentioned in D&C 42:13, then the same exhortation results: seek the Spirit, be worthy of it, trust it.

So, coming full circle, I can see the wisdom and the necessity of addressing this topic in the way it is always done. Seek the Spirit, be worthy of it, and trust it.

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25 responses to “Full circle: Why we don’t talk about when “not” to teach

  • Karen

    Along the lines of my future conclusion:
    “The fifth fundamental principle of gospel teaching I wish to stress is the Lord’s command, quoted earlier, that gospel teachers should “teach the principles of my gospel … as they shall be directed by the Spirit. … And if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach” ( D&C 42:12–14). It is a gospel teacher’s privilege and duty to seek that level of discipleship where his or her teachings will be directed and endorsed by the Spirit rather than being rigidly selected and prearranged for personal convenience or qualifications. ” DHO 99 Oct

  • Karen

    Spencer W Kimball 1948, April: “There are those today who seem to take pride in disagreeing with the orthodox teachings of the Church and who present their own opinions which are at variance with the revealed truth. Some may be partially innocent in the matter; others are feeding their own egotism; and some seem to be deliberate.”

  • Karen

    David B. McConkie 2010 OCt:
    Third, seek heaven’s help. Appeal unto the Lord for His Spirit with all of the energy of your heart. The scriptures state, “If ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.” 11 [ Doctrine and Covenants 42:14] This means that even if you use all the right teaching techniques and what you are teaching is true, without the Spirit real learning is not going to take place.

  • Karen

    Holland, Apr 98:
    “In all of this we must remember that the Lord has never given more emphatic counsel to the Church than that we are to teach the gospel “by the Spirit, even the Comforter which was sent forth to teach the truth.”

    Do we teach the gospel “by the Spirit of truth?” He has inquired. Or do we teach it “some other way? And if it be by some other way,” He warns, “it is not of God.” 13 [ D&C 50:14, 17–18] In language echoing other commandments, He has said, “If ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.” 14 [ D&C 42:14]

    No eternal learning can take place without that quickening of the Spirit from heaven. So, parents, teachers, and leaders, we must face our tasks the way Moses faced the promised land. Knowing he could not succeed any other way, Moses said to Jehovah, “If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up hence.” 15 [ Ex. 33:15]

    That is what our members really want when they gather in a meeting or come into a classroom anyway. Most people don’t come to church looking merely for a few new gospel facts or to see old friends, though all of that is important. They come seeking a spiritual experience. “

  • Karen

    Henry B. Eyring, Oct 97: “Just as pondering the scriptures invites the Holy Ghost, so does daily pleading in prayer. If we do not ask in prayer, He will rarely come, and without our petition He is not likely to linger. “And the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach” ( D&C 42:14). Heartfelt, constant pleading for the companionship of the Holy Ghost, with the pure intent to nourish our Father’s children, will surely bring blessings to us and to those we love and serve.”

  • Karen

    Henry B. Erying, April 88: “Second, let’s pray both for forgiveness and to get answers about what to do for the family. It would help if, when we go, we tell them that the Holy Ghost can guide them; it has already guided us to do something for them. If we pray and then feel that prompting and act on it, what we do may be more important than anything we say. Maybe our finding out how to help them will lead them to find out what more they can do for their son.

    Let’s agree that we’ll include both the parents and their children in our personal prayers, and we’ll plead for the Holy Ghost to help us teach. You remember the promise, “And the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach” ( D&C 42:14). That really fits us, doesn’t it?”

    Notice that many quotations just focus on the first half of the verse, even though they quote the whole thing.

  • Karen

    M Russell Ballard,April 83: “The Lord stressed the need for prayerful preparation by teachers, as recorded in the Doctrine and Covenants: “And the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.” ( D&C 42:14.)”

  • Karen

    Marion G. Romney 81 Oct: “I plead with you to seek this knowledge if you don’t already have that knowledge. You know the way now. It is not a mass experience. It must come to each individually. It must come to you. It must come to those whom you teach. We must teach by the Spirit, “and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach,” said the Savior. “The Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith.” ( D&C 42:14.)

    You who have been baptized have the right to it. Desire it. Pray for it. Work for it, and God will give it to you.”

    Hmm, he switched the verse around to emphasize the first part. Good idea!

  • Karen

    W. Grant Bangerter, April 1980: “We are further told: “The Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach” ( D&C 42:14). Prayer is the principal means by which this Spirit is obtained and felt.

    We must prepare ourselves to work with the Spirit of the Lord.

    Certain principles must accompany our teaching through the influence of the Spirit: First, we are to be holy men. This does not mean like the Marlboro man or the macho man—holy men. Then we need confidence in the Holy Ghost; believe in it and expect its presence to be with us. And when it comes, we need to recognize its presence and be able to help others to feel the influence that it brings.”

    Notice again the verse is quoted to talk about prayer, specifically. I think I see a pattern! 🙂

  • Karen

    David B. Haight, oct 77: “The Lord said, “And the Spirit shall be given … by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.” ( D&C 42:14.) Our missionaries teach and testify by the Spirit. But they must be in tune with the Lord. Hoping for the Spirit is not enough. Praying is not enough. Missionaries must do what the Lord requires: live the commandments, be clean, be wholesome in deed and thoughts. “The Lord hath said he dwelleth not in unholy temples.” ( Alma 34:36.)”

    prayer is not enough..

  • Karen

    Robert L. Simpson, oct 76
    “We offer very little thanks to our teachers throughout the Church. Each good teacher spends hours in preparation—not minutes, but hours. Scriptural references and concepts are pondered. The right words need to be found. Then those right words need to come out modulated by the Spirit, for this church has always been taught, “If ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.” ( D&C 42:14.) May we ever bless the name of those who convey the truth.”

    “modulated” huh? interesting word to use

  • Karen

    Hartman Rector Jr: 73 oct
    “Being led by the Spirit is vitally important because this is the Lord’s church and he runs it. Those who are called to serve must let the Lord run his church. They must be led by his Spirit because man’s thoughts are not God’s thoughts and man’s ways are not God’s ways; therefore, for man to do God’s work he must have the Spirit of the Lord or he won’t know what to do or how to perform.

    To continue with the revelation, now that the Lord has established the necessity for the Spirit, he proceeds to explain how to get the Spirit. The formula is apparently so simple:

    “And the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.” ( D&C 42:14.)

    On the surface it appears that all that is necessary to receive the Spirit is to ask for it, but it is not quite so easy a question! What is the difference between just ordinary prayer and a “prayer of faith”?

    As we consider that question, the difference is immediately apparent. The difference is faith, and what is faith? Of course, there are many definitions of faith, but one definition is “a strong belief plus action.” It is not perfect knowledge (as Alma explains in Alma 32), but real faith lets a man act as if he knows it is true when he really doesn’t.

    Therefore, faith in a real sense is power—power to act and perform without actual knowledge. The Lord’s formula for receiving the Spirit, then, is to get on our knees and communicate with him. Tell him what we are going to do—make commitments with him—outline our program—and then get up off our knees and go and do precisely what we have told him we would do. In the doing, the Spirit comes.

    From the record, it is obvious that most home teachers do not really enjoy home teaching. I have been a home teacher for 21 years. I don’t think I have missed a half dozen visits over the whole period. I cannot say that I love to home teach until I get to the first home, and then I do love it because I then get the spirit of a home teacher because I am acting like a home teacher—doing what a home teacher does.

    In order for a bishop to get the spirit of a bishop, he must first be called, ordained, and set apart, and that is in accord with the revelation we have just read. Does that give him the spirit of a bishop? Wouldn’t it be grand if it did? But of course it doesn’t. In order to get the spirit of a bishop, he must get on his knees and communicate with the Lord and then get up off his knees and go and do precisely what he has told the Lord he would do. Then he gets the spirit of a bishop as he acts like a bishop, and he is able to act for the Lord and do what the Lord would do if the Lord was the bishop.”

  • Karen

    Joseph Fielding Smith, oct 70
    “To those called “to go forth to preach” his gospel and to all “the elders, priests and teachers” of his church, he said: They “shall teach the principles of my gospel, which are in the Bible and the Book of Mormon,” and the other scriptures, “as they shall be directed by the Spirit.” ( D&C 42:11-13)

    As agents of the Lord we are not called or authorized to teach the philosophies of the world or the speculative theories of our scientific age. Our mission is to preach the doctrines of salvation in plainness and simplicity ( D&C 133:57) as they are revealed and recorded in the scriptures.

    After directing us to teach the principles of the gospel found in the standard works, as guided by the Spirit, the Lord then made that great pronouncement which governs all the teaching of his gospel by anyone in the Church: “And the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach.” ( D&C 42:14)

    Learn and live gospel….”

  • Karen

    Alvin Dyer, oct 66:
    “To those of us who have leaned more to our own strength, or to carnal-mindedness, let us seek for the Spirit, then live and teach by it as declared in the revelations from our Heavenly Father:

    “And the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith; and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach” ( D&C 42:14).

    “For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

    “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned” ( 1 Cor. 2:11,14).”

    no commentary!

  • Karen

    Joseph Fielding Smith oct 54
    “In the early days of the Church men came out of the world and received the testimony of the gospel, but they had been trained in the traditions of the world, the religious world, and they brought in with them some of those religious notions. The Lord had to correct them, and he said:

    “Let us reason even as a man reasoneth one with another face to face.

    “Now, when a man reasoneth he is understood of man, because he reasoneth as a man; even so will I, the Lord, reason with you that you may understand.

    “Wherefore, I the Lord ask you this question—unto what were ye ordained?

    “To preach my gospel by the Spirit, even the Comforter which was sent forth to teach the truth.

    “And then received ye spirits which ye could not understand, and received them to be of God; and in this are ye justified?

    “Behold ye shall answer this question yourselves; nevertheless, I will be merciful unto you; he that is weak among you hereafter shall be made strong.

    “Verily I say unto you, he that is ordained of me and sent forth to preach the word of truth by the Comforter, in the Spirit of truth, doth he preach it by the spirit of truth or some other way?

    “And if it be by some other way it is not of God.

    “And again, he that receiveth the word of truth, doth he receive it by the Spirit of truth or some other way?

    “If it be some other way it is not of God.

    “Therefore, why is it that ye cannot understand and know, that he that receiveth the word by the Spirit of truth receiveth it as it is preached by the Spirit of truth?

    “Wherefore, he that preacheth and he that receiveth, understand one another, and both are edified and rejoice together.

    “And that which doth not edify is not of God, and is darkness” ( D&C 50:11-23).

    It makes no difference who the teacher is, if he teaches false doctrine, if he teaches that which has been condemned by the Lord, that is contrary to what is written in the revelations given to the Church, then he should not teach.

    In the forty-second section of the Doctrine and Covenants the Lord declares that he who hath not the Spirit shall not teach ( D&C 42:14). I call upon you brethren in the stakes and in the wards to be alert to find men who have faith in their hearts and a love of the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ and do not choose men simply because they have a personality or worldly wisdom. Find if they have in their hearts a love of divine truth. If a man cannot accept the revelations in the Bible, in the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, which we have received as standards, if he has reservations in his mind in regard to the things that are there recorded, which have come to us by the word of the Lord, then he ought not be teaching in any organization, any class, anywhere in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    May the Lord bless us one and all, guide us in righteousness, help us through the study of the scriptures to know his will, I humbly pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.”

    I like the call to find good teachers! Ye shall not let them teach, is the idea

  • Karen

    Bruce R McConkie, oct 49
    “But if we teach without the Spirit of the Lord, if we are not guided by the Holy Ghost, we will be teaching at our peril. It is a serious thing to teach false doctrine, to teach that which is not true, to teach that which does not build faith in the hearts of men.

    In that same sermon on latter-day church conditions, Nephi said, the Holy Ghost giving him utterance,

    . . . and all those who preach false doctrines,…wo, wo, wo be unto them, saith the Lord God Almighty, for they shall be thrust down to hell! ( 2 Ne. 28:15).

    There is no hope and no salvation and no blessing in carrying any message to the world by the power of man. The philosophies of the world and the wisdom of the wise shall perish ( Isa. 29:14). We cannot touch the hearts of men, but the Lord can, and he will touch them through our ministry if we have the Spirit of the Lord in our hearts. We will get that Spirit if we are righteous in our living and in the things we do.

    And so it is that the Lord said by revelation to the whole Church through the Prophet Joseph Smith, that:

    . . . the Spirit shall be given unto you by the prayer of faith: and if ye receive not the Spirit ye shall not teach ( D&C 42:14).

    And so it is that he has sent his elders out in this day commanding that they take no thought beforehand what they should say but instructing that they should treasure up in their minds continually the words of life. Theirs is then the promise that it shall be given them in the very hour that portion which should be meted to every man.

    If we can have the Holy Ghost as our guide ( D&C 45:57), we shall be able to touch the hearts of righteous men; we shall do the things that the Lord wants us to do; and this course will give us peace here and eternal reward hereafter ( D&C 59:23).”

  • Karen

    Marion G Romney, apr 44
    “SPEAKING BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST

    The other day Brother Joseph Fielding Smith spoke of the spirit of the Lord that enlightens every man who comes into this world ( John 1:9). I think the spirit of the Lord which we seek in administering the affairs of the Church is more than that spirit. When I pray for the spirit of the Lord to direct me in this talk, I pray for the spirit of revelation, the help of the Holy Ghost. You know, the Lord said that we should have this spirit by the prayer of faith, and He said further if we did not have the spirit, we should not teach ( D&C 42:14).

    Nephi said on one occasion that “when a man speaketh by the power of the Holy Ghost, the power of the Holy Ghost carrieth it unto the hearts of the children of men” ( 2 Ne. 33:1). I am persuaded that one of the deepest truths, the most glorious principles, revealed to the world through the restoration, by the Lord, through the Prophet Joseph Smith, was the doctrine that every man and every woman and every boy and every girl who has reached the age of accountability ( D&C 18:42) and has joined the Church may have the spirit of the Lord, that is, the gift of the Holy Ghost, to guide him through his life. I mean by this direct communication with, revelation from, God our eternal Father.

    The Prophet Joseph Smith taught this in a wonderful way. In the last chapter, quoting Moroni, he told us how to get a testimony of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. We are not left to take the word and testimony of the Prophet and of the three and eight witnesses only, but he there told us that when we read the book, if we will ask God the eternal Father in faith, He will manifest the truth of it unto us, individually, I take it, by the power of the Holy Ghost, and that by the power of the Holy Ghost we may know the truth of all things ( Moro. 10:4-5).”

  • Karen

    Wilford Woodruff, 1880 – Journal of Discourses vol 21
    “The Lord, in a revelation given to Orson Hyde and William McClellan in the early days of the Church, in sending them out to preach the Gospel, told them that when they preached they should speak as they were moved upon by the Holy Ghost; and that if they did not have the Holy Spirit to direct them, they were told not to teach. “And,” said the Lord, “when you do speak as you are moved upon by the Holy Ghost, your words are the words of [p. 298a] God, they are scripture, and they are the mind of the Lord to the people.” (Sec. 68.) Many have an idea that it is something very strange for men nowadays to have revelation, and that nobody should have revelation excepting Brother Taylor. Here, my brethren and sisters, you are upholding the quorum of the Twelve twice a year in General Conference, besides doing so at your quarterly conference, as prophets, seers and revelators, and you pray for them twice a day, and perhaps oftener, and should it be anything very strange if they should receive a revelation? How strange, indeed! There are in this Church some six thousand seventies, and four thousand high priests, and four thousand elders, who hold the Melchizedek priesthood, which is after the order of the Son of God, besides many thousands of priests holding the Aaronic priesthood, and I would like to ask, if it was wrong to desire revelation? What business have we with this priesthood, if we have not power to receive revelation? What is the priesthood given for? If we do not have revelation, it is because we do not live as we should live, because we do not magnify our priesthood as we ought to; if we did we would not be without revelation, none would be barren or unfruitful. We have one man who holds the keys of the kingdom of God upon the earth, and it is his business to give the word of the Lord for the guidance of the Church. But here we have apostles and men of God, holding the holy priesthood, acting in behalf of the Church in different parts of this Territory, and also in different parts of the earth; and we have men, say, acting as Church agents in Europe, part of whose business it is to charter ships for the transit across the ocean of tens of [p. 298b] thousands of the people of God; is it the right of such men to have revelation from the Lord to guide them in their operations? Yes, it is; and no man should undertake to act in positions affecting the interests of Zion, unless he lives so as to be guided and directed by revelations of God. And every man who presides over a temple should live day by day in the revelations of Jesus Christ. And every seventy, and every high priest, and every man bearing the holy priesthood should live in that way to get revelation to guide and direct him in his labors. This idea that no man has any right to call upon God and receive revelation is wrong, and it has been wrong wherever it has existed in any age of the world. As was said of old, when a complaint was made concerning certain of the elders prophesying in the Camp of Israel, so say I: “I would to God that all were prophets;” because the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus.”

  • Karen

    Charles C Rich, 1877, Journal of Discourses vol.19
    “Brethren and sisters—I have a few remarks to make to the Saints this afternoon, and I trust I shall have your prayers and attention. I feel my weakness and that I am unable to benefit the Saints without the Spirit of the Lord. And the same applies to all who stand before the Saints, to minister in word and doctrine. We are taught by the revelations given us through the Prophet Joseph, that we should not undertake to teach without the spirit, and I feel that I need its influence and power, that I may speak such things that will be pleasing to the Lord.”

  • Karen

    Orson Pratt 1873 Journal of Discourses vol 16
    “I have been called upon, but a few minutes ago, to address the congregation who are here assembled, which I desire to do through your united faith and prayers in my behalf. Without the assistance of the Spirit of the Lord it is impossible for any person, in a religious capacity, to edify and instruct his fellow beings. [p. 146b] But, if we have the Spirit of the Lord, however imperfect our abilities may be, we are sure to edify and enlighten the people, and the person also who speaks will be edified; for it is written in the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, “He that speaketh, as well as those who hear, will be mutually edified together,” if the [p. 147a] Spirit of the Lord is poured out from on high upon us. It is said in another revelation that “the Spirit of the Lord is given by the prayer of faith.” Faith is required on the part of the people to obtain all blessings of a spiritual nature. And in order to have faith it is important that we should do the will of God, otherwise our faith will be very weak indeed. He that doeth his master’s will, and has within him the desire to work righteousness, can approach the Lord in faith; but if we do not keep his commandments, and have not this desire, and do not do his will, our faith becomes exceedingly small indeed.”

  • Karen

    Wilford Woodruff, 1873, Journal of Discourses v. 15
    ” I am surrounded with those who know by experience that we are dependent upon the influence and inspiration of the Holy Ghost to enable us to teach the things of the kingdom of God. My faith is that no man, in this or any other generation, is able to teach and edify the inhabitants of the earth without the inspiration of the Spirit of God. As a people we have been placed in positions the last forty years which have taught, in all our administrations and labors, the necessity of acknowledging the hand of God in all things. We feel this necessity today. I know that I am not qualified to teach either the Latter-day Saints or the world without the Spirit of God. I desire this this afternoon, and also your faith and prayers, that my mind may be led in a channel which may be beneficial to you. In my public teaching I never permit my mind to follow in any channel except that which the Spirit dictates to me, and this is the position we all occupy when we meet with the Saints, or when we go forth to preach the Gospel. As Jesus told his Apostles, Take no thought what ye shall say, it is told us, Take no [p. 275b] thought what we shall say; but we treasure up in our minds words of wisdom by the blessing of God and studying the best books.
    We are told in the 24th chapter of Matthew that Jesus, on a certain occasion, taught his disciples many things concerning his Gospel, the Temple, the Jews, his second coming and the end of the world; and they asked him—Master, what shall be the sign of these things? The Savior answered them, but in a very brief manner. As my mind runs a little in that channel, I feel disposed to read a portion of the word of the Lord unto us, which explains this matter more fully than the Savior explained it to his disciples. That portion of the word of the Lord which I shall read, is a revelation given to the Latter-day Saints, March 7, 1831, forty-two years ago next March. It commences on the 133rd page of the Book of Doctrine and Covenants.”

  • Karen

    Orson Pratt 1872, Journal of Discourses vol 15
    “I have, through upwards of forty years’ experience in the public ministry, learned some few lessons in regard to public speaking. In the first place I know that the wisdom of man avails but very little, and that our own judgment, thoughts and reflections are not what the Lord requires; but he does require, and has required, ever since the rise of this Church, that his servants should speak by the power of the Holy Ghost. A revelation given to the Elders of this Church in the year 1831, says, “My servants shall be sent forth to the east and to the west, and to the north and to the south, and they shall lift up their voices and speak and prophesy, as seemeth me good; but if you receive not the Spirit you shall not teach.” This [p. 229b] is a commandment that the Lord gave to his servants over forty years ago. I have seen a few times from the commencement of my ministry, when my mind seemed to be entirely closed up, and when what few words I could stammer forth before a congregation, were altogether unsatisfactory to my own mind, and I presume to those who heard me.”

    And link to whole talk, titled “Spirit of Light and Truth—Its Value—Its Opposite Necessary—Final Triumph of Light and Truth” at http://scriptures.byu.edu/jod/jodhtml.php?vol=15&disc=31

  • Karen

    Joseph Smith, mentioning in passing:
    “so must the elders of the last days do; and, being sent out to preach the Gospel17 and warn the world of the judgments18 to come, we are sure, when they teach as directed by the Spirit,19 according to the revelations20 of Jesus Christ,21 that they will preach the truth22 and prosper without complaint. Thus we have no new commandment to give, but admonish elders and members23 to live by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God,24 lest they come short of the glory25 that is reserved for the faithful.26 (May 22, 1843.) DHC 5:404.

    not really directly on that verse…

  • Karen

    another quotation that kind of talks about it
    Joseph Smith
    “. The Seventies are to be taken from the quorum of Elders, and are not to be High Priests. They are subject to the direction and dictation of the Twelve,6 who have the keys of the ministry. All are to preach the Gospel,7 by the power and influence of the Holy Ghost;8 and no man can preach the Gospel without the Holy Ghost.9”

    (I’m getting all these from the BYU Citation index, which links to any talk that uses a particular scripture)

  • Karen

    on seeking for revelation, and on prayer of faith: Joseph smith, quotation
    “There are two paragraphs in your letter which I do not commend, as they are written blindly. Speaking of the Elders being sent like lightning from the bow9 of Judah; the second, no secrets in the councils of Zion. You mention these as if fear rested upon your mind, otherwise we cannot understand it. And again we never inquire at the hand of God10 for special revelation only in case of there being no previous revelation to suit the case; and that in a council of High Priests. * * *

    It is a great thing to inquire at the hands of God,11 or to come into His presence; and we feel fearful to approach Him on subjects that are of little or no consequence,12 to satisfy the queries of individuals, especially about things the knowledge of which men ought to obtain13 in all sincerity, before God, for themselves, in humility by the prayer of faith;14 and more especially a Teacher or a High Priest in the Church. I speak these things not by way of reproach, but by way of instruction;15 and I speak as if acquainted with you,16 whereas we are strangers to each other in the flesh.”

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