Rambling thoughts on D&C 84

Aaronic priesthood remained until John – not that it disappeared then. It remained as the main or only priesthood until John, who was given power to prepare the way for Christ, who held “all power” – including, of course, the Melch. Priesthood which then Peter James and John held.

John prepared the way for Christ, just like the Aaronic priesthood prepares the way for the Melchizedek Priesthood.

for the sonsof Moses and also the sons of Aaron shall offer an acceptable offering and sacrifice in the house of the Lord

whose sons are ye

 For whoso is faithful unto the obtaining these two priesthoods of which I have spoken, and the magnifying their calling, are sanctified by the Spirit unto the renewing of their bodies.

They become the sons of Moses and of Aaron and the seed of Abraham, (not when they are baptized? This is when Abraham 1 and 2 are fulfilled? When people receive the priesthood? What about women – or of course, is this about the temple? this gets confusing…)

and the church and kingdom, and the elect of God.

And also all they who receive this priesthood receive me, saith the Lord;

For he that receiveth my servants (Those with priesthood? Those giving Priesthood? Angels restoring priesthood? Those giving priesthood things in temple?) receiveth me (in temple, God gives word to angels, they give words and “things” to Adam and Eve, those are given to workers who then dispense them to members. Is that what we mean here? Or is the temple an example and this is more broad?); And he that receiveth me receiveth my Father (We are brought to the Father?) ; And he that receiveth my Father receiveth my Father’s kingdom (when? when we are resurrected? or we receive entrance into the kingdom? or again the temple? or is the temple symbolic of all of this?); therefore all that my Father hath shall be given unto him. And this is according to the oath and covenant which belongeth to the priesthood. (What part? “Simply” that we can receive all that the Father has?) (Or the pattern of servant to Christ, Christ to Father, Father to all His Kingdom?) (What about Alma 12-13 that says priests ordained to show us a pattern?)

 40 Therefore, all those who receive the priesthood, receive this oath and covenant of my Father, which he cannot break, neither can it be moved.

(I’m starting to read this as the last part only. Those who come to the Father receive all the Father hath. That is this Oath and Covenant. It kind of fits with other things in the JST etc with Noah and Enoch being promised that people on earth will be reunited with those in heaven. But mostly, it seems to fit grammatically.)

41 But whoso breaketh this covenant after he hath received it,and altogether turneth therefrom, shall not have forgiveness ofsins in this world nor in the world to come.

(Meaning, those who receive all the Father hath? Or understand that this is promised to them and then turn away from it? From what? From the work and responsibility of trying to bring others to behold the face of God?

(Ah! So Moses knew and taught plainly that we need the priesthood to behold God. This Oath seems to be along the same lines as that. God promises that those who obtain the priesthood … can and will behold God’s face. Is that simply the promise here?)

(And if we have that and turn away there’s a problem? That seems to fit the severity here of not having forgiveness of sins! What about simply knowing – really knowing – that this could lead you to God but you don’t want it? I guess that’s what the children of Israel wanted – they wanted Mosses to talk to God for them rather than each one of them coming to God. And I don’t think they didn’t receive forgiveness of sins, but they were punished to not enter the holy land until that generation had passed away.

(So, we think of the Priesthood as bringing blessings to people, of say health, or even knowledge, or at the least the ordinances so that someday we can go to heaven. But from what I think I am reading about Moses, the aim is more immediate. It is to bring people to see God now, in the flesh, and not just at some future point. But, this has to be done with the Mel. Priesthood, and God in his wrath left them with just the Aaronic until Christ himself came. And the point of the Aaronic is to prepare for the Mel, because with Mel you can see the face of God and live. 

(Why is the Mel priesthood necessary to see God? Why is priesthood necessary at all?

(Regardless of why, for now I’ll just remember that it is. So in the temple both men and women receive things associated with both Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods – and specifically named as such. With all of those things, then men and women can approach the veil and symbolically approach Christ, who then leads them into Heaven where the Father would be. This is symbolic, so what are to learn exactly? That what we just received in the temple is literally what we need to later come to Christ and the Father? Or is it still symbolic at this point? Are they symbols for what goes on outside of the temple? Or is what goes on outside the temple symbolic of what goes on in the temple? Is it s lesser version of the temple? Or should the temple help us understand what happens outside? But isn’t the purpose of the Church to get us to the temple? So why would it point backward? 

(The descriptions of Aaronic as that which receives angels and the MEl as that which brings us to behold God seem to match up so well with the temple, and I can’t seem to make any sense of those claims w/o the temple. But what does that mean for me, sitting here on my couch, not in the temple?)

 42 And wo unto all those who come not unto this priesthood which ye have received, which I now confirm upon you who are present this day, by mine own voice out of the heavens; and even I have given the heavenly hosts and mine angels charge concerning you.

(“Come not to… [that] which he have received.” Already received it, and yet, not come to it? Get back to that later. Thinking Moses again, remember that they had Moses and his teachings given to them, but they refused them and wanted just the lesser priesthood. So this seems to be a similar idea but on an individual level. 

(Also, God has invested a lot in these people – even given the angels charge concerning them!)

 43 And I now give unto you a commandment to beware concerning yourselves, to give diligent heed to the words of eternal life.


47 And every one that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit cometh unto God, even the Father.

48 And the Father teacheth him of the covenant which he has renewed and confirmed upon you, which is confirmed upon you for your sakes, and not for your sakes only, but for the sake of the whole world.

(Similar pattern. But now, listening to the Spirit brings us to God, and then he “teacheth him of the covenant.” Who, those who are members or nonmembers understanding what theses authorized servants have? Or are those priesthood bearers being promised they can learn about what they already have?)

(I think verse 48 has to be read in light of the Abrahamic Covenant. “For the sake of the whole world” sounds a lot like “in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.”

So, is this covenant the same one as the Oath and Covenant?

If so, how are we reading this section, and how are we then also reading everything else on the Covenant?


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