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Elder Holland’s Of Souls, Symbols, and Sacraments


I feel like Elder Holland’s talk wouldn’t be very popular today. We are very concerned -understandably – that those who have been victims of abuse and also those who have experimented don’t feel left out or unnecessarily guilty. So, many Mormons don’t like any talk of virtue and cleanliness.

To talk, for example, of the future blessings of being clean when entering marriage such that one can deeply bind with one’s spouse, is to put some people on a pedestal and to tell the rest, “Well, sorry, you’re second class forever.” That is the concern many Mormons have.

I always wonder why we can’t have talk of virtue and say that there are no second class members? Why can’t we say, in full honesty and full exhortative fashion, that entering marriage ready and willing to give fully to each other is fantastic and momentous and beautiful and superb? And why can’t we say that those who haven’t prepared themselves (and sexual purity is only one form of preparation — one must also be willing to share emotions and private thoughts and so forth) will miss the full realization of the blessings of marriage? Is that not true? Do we believe that is true? Are we going to argue against that point?

I almost feel like we are arguing against that point when we say that talk of virtue is hurtful to those who have experimented.

I hear the point more clearly when we say that talk of virtue is hurtful to those who have been abused.

But, isn’t that part of why the situation of the abused is so worth mourning? So heart-wrenching? Someone has taken something from them – and I know I shouldn’t say that, in today’s climate – but someone has. Emotionally they have been drained, mentally they have been drained, physically they have been drained. That’s precisely why it is wrong! So very, very wrong. They have been exploited.

But now, now comes the other shoe that needs to drop before this conversation goes on. The other shoe is that God’s atonement really, really can make us clean. Really! Clean. Clean. Clean. As if, in some way, it never happened. But of course, passing through the fact that it really did happen. But clean.

And if clean, then ready to participate fully in marriage or any other endeavor that requires our whole souls.

And this atonement – as has been preached continually – heals both those who have sinned knowingly, unknowingly, and have not sinned at all, but been victims to those who have sinned. It really can. It’s hard, harder than anything, but it can. That is the promise.

Now, it may seem unfair of me to suggest that those who have been victims of abuse need to be cleansed. But I know I have had need of that cleansing in other circumstances (not sexual, in my case, but other times where I have been hurt by other’s sins). And I am not ready to give myself fully/100% in certain circumstances. I am distracted by my pain, or my worries. Legitimately, plainly, I am not 100% myself because I have been affected by someone else’s actions. But, as a totally shock, it has been possible for the atonement to cleanse my mind and my heart and restore to me that which was lost, taken, changed, hurt, affected. There really was damage done, and it really was restored. Really.

That’s not to say that if someone has offended me at Church, for example, I will necessarily stop going to meetings. But I will hold back from full friendship and communion with my ward members. The promise of the blessings of unity with the saints is not fully realized. Just like in marriage, there are greater blessings to be found when there is greater unity. And if I am holding back because of experimentation of how to fulfill my own needs or curiosity, or holding back because of hurt caused by others, either way, I am not enjoying the fullness of “the intimacy it is your right and privilege and delight to enjoy in marriage” (as Elder Holland puts it). I just am not. I just think that is a fact. I am not. Whether by my own purposeful actions, or my human confusion, or by the actions inflicted on me by others, I am not. And that is something to mourn! And to help heal!

I hope I am not saying things that will cause others to hate me, though fortunately not too many read this blog. 🙂 But I believe that there is something glorious about being 100% invested in a marriage, and it’s ok to say that anything less than that is less than that. And I think it is ok to say that those who aren’t 100% invested can call upon the blessings of the atonement to have that which is not there become there. At any point in their lives. On any day! I have need to be restored to full communion with my spouse, just because events of life can cause me to think of myself more than I should. That’s a minor example, but I say it because it really does mean I’m not 100% there, and I have felt myself restored to 100%. And anyone can be restored to the possibility of being 100% there. It’s ok to say the atonement can really, really do that. For anyone.

I hope I’m not being offensive to anyone who does read this, but I think to say that all this talk about virtue is hurtful is to say that we don’t quite trust that the atonement can restore everyone to this place of virtue. Virtue is so important to talk about because it is a blessing available to everyone. That is precisely why it is so important to talk about. It is good, and strong, and opens up communion with God and with other human beings in ways that are so, so strong. And it is available to everyone who has been affected by others as much as those who have sinned (and everyone has sinned). Virtue is real. It is what Zion is built on.

Such are some random rambling thoughts of the morning. Nothing new. But as I was reviewing Elder Holland’s talk this morning, they were returning to my mind over and over again so I thought I’d get them out on virtual paper. 🙂

Back to reading… (or really, in this case, back to getting kids ready for school to start)


A few leads on seeing the Abrahamic Covenant in 2 Nephi


It’s fun to look at scriptures.lds.org page for 2 Nephi, with all of the headings (original and added) all in a row. It gives a sense of what the message of the book is and how the different parts build on each other.

For example, if Nephi is concerned with making the Abrahamic Covenant known to his descendants, and he does this by quoting Isaiah, then it’s helpful to see, even at a glance, what themes and topics Isaiah talks about.

I get the idea that a gathering and a restoring of Israel is primary here. But how is that accomplished? That’s the sort of question I have in mind. (That I’m only starting to think about.)

On a related note, it was helpful to see the sermon of Jacob summarized chapter by chapter. He reads Isaiah, then talks about atonement/resurrection, and then back to the Jews relationship to Christ and the fulfillment of the Covenant. Why detour to the atonement in chapter 9? Or rather, I should probably realize it’s not a detour at all and crucial to his conversation about the Abrahamic Covenant.

Again, just leads in my short study time this morning, but at it’s fun to even see a few leads.


From Greatness to Weakness to Faith to Love to Spiritual Rebirth


As I’ve searched more closely in the stories of Alma the Younger (Alma 36), the speech by King Benjamin (Mosiah 2-5), and the psalm of Nephi (2 Nephi 4), I’ve revised my thoughts about weakness and grace.

I thought for a while that it was as one felt both God’s love and one’s weakness simultaneously that one felt grace and became reborn. (I got that mostly from how I was reading Mosiah 4:11-12.) But as I’ve talked it out with Joe and done some further reflecting, I think that is actually very problematic. I’ll get back to that later.

The pattern as I see it now is outlined in the title: Something or someone witnesses to you of God’s greatness (His power, His authority, etc.). Also, something (often that very witness) causes you to recognize your own weakness. At that point, you have a choice to stay obsessing over your weakness and trying to talk yourself into thinking you’re “not that bad,” or, to call out to God to save you. God, according to Ether 12:27, does this on purpose in hopes that you will call out to Him. This is the moment of faith. It requires you to believe that even though you are weak, God wants you anyway. If you call out to Him, God responds by filling you with feelings of His infinite love for you. (Yes! What you were taught about the atonement is true: He can and wants to save y0u! His Grace is real and He is in charge! He’s really there!) Feeling that love, after you have felt your weakness so thoroughly, can be life-transforming. But it only can be: here comes another moment of choice. Will you remember together His greatness and your weakness, and so always rejoice? (see Mosiah 4:11-12). Will you dedicate your life to helping others feel that same joy? (see Alma 36:24).

So the pattern I see right now is:

  1. A witness of God’s greatness
  2. A recognition of your own weakness
  3. A calling-out for mercy because of faith in the Atonement (faith in God’s Grace)
  4. An outpouring of God’s love
  5. A potential spiritual rebirth

Let me show this step-by-step as I see it in Alma, Benjamin, and Nephi:

Alma 36/Mosiah 27:

1. Knowledge of God’s Greatness

For Alma, a knowledge of God’s greatness comes when the angel speaks and shakes the earth:

Therefore, for this purpose have I come to convince thee of the power and authority of God, that the prayers of his servants might be answered according to their faith. And now behold, can ye dispute the power of God? For behold, doth not my voice shake the earth? And can ye not also behold me before you? And I am sent from God.” (Mosiah 27:14-15)

and:

God sent his holy angel to stop us by the way. And behold, he spake unto us, as it were the voice of thunder, and the whole earth did tremble beneath our feet; and we all fell to the earth, for the fear of the Lord came upon us. (Alma 36:6-7)

2. Recognition of Weakness

When Alma has this experience, he immediately recognizes his weakness and panics that he will be destroyed. He spends three days thinking about nothing else but his sinful and weak state:

And the angel spake more things unto me, which were heard by my brethren, but I did not hear them; for when I heard the words—If thou wilt be destroyed of thyself, seek no more to destroy the church of God—I was struck with such great fear and amazement lest perhaps I should be destroyed, that I fell to the earth and I did hear no more.

But I was racked with eternal torment, for my soul was harrowed up to the greatest degree and racked with all my sins.

Yea, I did remember all my sins and iniquities, for which I was tormented with the pains of hell; yea, I saw that I had rebelled against my God, and that I had not kept his holy commandments.

Yea, and I had murdered many of his children, or rather led them away unto destruction; yea, and in fine so great had been my iniquities, that the very thought of coming into the presence of my God did rack my soul with inexpressible horror.

Oh, thought I, that I could be banished and become extinct both soul and body, that I might not be brought to stand in the presence of my God, to be judged of my deeds. (Alma 26:11-15)

3. Faith in the Atonement

What gets him out of this time of darkness and immobility?

Behold, I remembered also to have heard my father prophesy unto the people concerning the coming of one Jesus Christ, a Son of God, to atone for the sins of the world.

Now, as my mind caught hold upon this thought, I cried within my heart: O Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death. (Alma 36:17-18)

4. Love

After feeling so awful it is tempting to think that God won’t respond or will take his time. But Alma is immediately filled with joy! It is all that his heart had desired at that point. (Maybe that is part of the key?) It reminds me in some ways of D&C 121:43: “Reproving betimes with sharpness, when moved upon by the Holy Ghost; and then showing forth afterwards an increase of love.”

And oh, what joy, and what marvelous light I did behold; yea, my soul was filled with joy as exceeding as was my pain!

Yea, I say unto you, my son, that there could be nothing so exquisite and so bitter as were my pains. Yea, and again I say unto you, my son, that on the other hand, there can be nothing so exquisite and sweet as was my joy.

Yea, methought I saw, even as our father Lehi saw, God sitting upon his throne, surrounded with numberless concourses of angels, in the attitude of singing and praising their God; yea, and my soul did long to be there. (Alma 36:20-22)

5. Rebirth

Alma has another choice now. Will this experience be life-changing? Will he be reborn as a new person?

For, said he, I have repented of my sins, and have been redeemed of the Lord; behold I am born of the Spirit. (Mosiah 27:24)

Yea, and from that time even until now, I have labored without ceasing, that I might bring souls unto repentance; that I might bring them to taste of the exceeding joy of which I did taste; that they might also be born of God, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. (Alma 36:24)

King Benjamin’s speech:

1. Knowledge of God’s Greatness/2.Recognition of Weakness

In chapter 2, King Benjamin teaches his people about God’s creations and about their dependence on God. For example:

And now, in the first place, he hath created you, and granted unto you your lives, for which ye are indebted unto him.

And secondly, he doth require that ye should do as he hath commanded you; for which if ye do, he doth immediately bless you; and therefore he hath paid you. And ye are still indebted unto him, and are, and will be, forever and ever; therefore, of what have ye to boast?

And now I ask, can ye say aught of yourselves? I answer you, Nay. Ye cannot say that ye are even as much as the dust of the earth; yet ye were created of the dust of the earth; but behold, it belongeth to him who created you.

And I, even I, whom ye call your king, am no better than ye yourselves are; for I am also of the dust. And ye behold that I am old, and am about to yield up this mortal frame to its mother earth. (Mosiah 2:23-26)

3. Faith in the Atonement / 4. Love

In chapter 3, King Benjamin teaches his people about the atonement, based one what the angel had taught him about Christ. For example:

For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay, and shall go forth amongst men, working mighty miracles, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, causing the lame to walk, the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear, and curing all manner of diseases.

And moreover, I say unto you, that there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent.

For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.

And moreover, I say unto you, that the time shall come when the knowledge of a Savior shall spread throughout every nation, kindred, tongue, and people.

And behold, when that time cometh, none shall be found blameless before God, except it be little children, only through repentance and faith on the name of the Lord God Omnipotent. (Mosiah 3:5, 17, 19-21)

Their actual calling-out in faith comes in chapter 4:

And they had viewed themselves in their own carnal state, even less than the dust of the earth. And they all cried aloud with one voice, saying: O have mercy, and apply the atoning blood of Christ that we may receive forgiveness of our sins, and our hearts may be purified; for we believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who created heaven and earth, and all things; who shall come down among the children of men.

And it came to pass that after they had spoken these words the Spirit of the Lord came upon them, and they were filled with joy, having received a remission of their sins, and having peace of conscience, because of the exceeding faith which they had in Jesus Christ who should come, according to the words which king Benjamin had spoken unto them. (Mosiah 4:2-3)

5. Rebirth

Once King Benjamin has seen his people come to this point, he wants to make sure this change of heart continues. He reviews with them what they have learned and how to stay in this way. In other words, to be spiritually reborn:

For behold, if the knowledge of the goodness of God at this time has awakened you to a sense of your nothingness, and your worthless and fallen state—

I say unto you, if ye have come to a knowledge of the goodness of God, and his matchless power, and his wisdom, and his patience, and his long-suffering towards the children of men; and also, the atonement which has been prepared from the foundation of the world, that thereby salvation might come to him that should put his trust in the Lord, and should be diligent in keeping his commandments, and continue in the faith even unto the end of his life, I mean the life of the mortal body—

And again, believe that ye must repent of your sins and forsake them, and humble yourselves before God; and ask in sincerity of heart that he would forgive you; and now, if you believe all these things see that ye do them.

And again I say unto you as I have said before, that as ye have come to the knowledge of the glory of God, or if ye have known of his goodness and have tasted of his love, and have received a remission of your sins, which causeth such exceedingly great joy in your souls, even so I would that ye should remember, and always retain in remembrance, the greatness of God, and your own nothingness, and his goodness and long-suffering towards you, unworthy creatures, and humble yourselves even in the depths of humility, calling on the name of the Lord daily, and standing steadfastly in the faith of that which is to come, which was spoken by the mouth of the angel.

And behold, I say unto you that if ye do this ye shall always rejoice, and be filled with the love of God, and always retain a remission of your sins; and ye shall grow in the knowledge of the glory of him that created you, or in the knowledge of that which is just and true. (Mosiah 4:5-6, 10-12)

2 Nephi 4:

And finally, last but certainly not least, here are the writings of Nephi. This is from the perspective of someone who has already been reborn, but, like all of us, is tempted sometimes to return to the point of obsessing about our weakness. Rather than divide it up, here is the complete text of “Nephi’s psalm” (and it’s absolutely beautiful):

16 Behold, my soul delighteth in the things of the Lord; and my heart pondereth continually upon the things which I have seen and heard.

17 Nevertheless, notwithstanding the great goodness of the Lord, in showing me his great and marvelous works, my heart exclaimeth: O wretched man that I am! Yea, my heart sorroweth because of my flesh; my soul grieveth because of mine iniquities.

18 I am encompassed about, because of the temptations and the sins which do so easily beset me.

19 And when I desire to rejoice, my heart groaneth because of my sins; nevertheless, I know in whom I have trusted.

20 My God hath been my support; he hath led me through mine afflictions in the wilderness; and he hath preserved me upon the waters of the great deep.

21 He hath filled me with his love, even unto the consuming of my flesh.

22 He hath confounded mine enemies, unto the causing of them to quake before me.

23 Behold, he hath heard my cry by day, and he hath given me knowledge by visions in the night-time.

24 And by day have I waxed bold in mighty prayer before him; yea, my voice have I sent up on high; and angels came down and ministered unto me.

25 And upon the wings of his Spirit hath my body been carried away upon exceedingly high mountains. And mine eyes have beheld great things, yea, even too great for man; therefore I was bidden that I should not write them.

26 O then, if I have seen so great things, if the Lord in his condescension unto the children of men hath visited men in so much mercy, why should my heart weep and my soul linger in the valley of sorrow, and my flesh waste away, and my strength slacken, because of mine afflictions?

27 And why should I yield to sin, because of my flesh? Yea, why should I give way to temptations, that the evil one have place in my heart to destroy my peace and afflict my soul? Why am I angry because of mine enemy?

28 Awake, my soul! No longer droop in sin. Rejoice, O my heart, and give place no more for the enemy of my soul.

29 Do not anger again because of mine enemies. Do not slacken my strength because of mine afflictions.

30 Rejoice, O my heart, and cry unto the Lord, and say: O Lord, I will praise thee forever; yea, my soul will rejoice in thee, my God, and the rock of my salvation.

31 O Lord, wilt thou redeem my soul? Wilt thou deliver me out of the hands of mine enemies? Wilt thou make me that I may shake at the appearance of sin?

32 May the gates of hell be shut continually before me, because that my heart is broken and my spirit is contrite! O Lord, wilt thou not shut the gates of thy righteousness before me, that I may walk in the path of the low valley, that I may be strict in the plain road!

33 O Lord, wilt thou encircle me around in the robe of thy righteousness! O Lord, wilt thou make a way for mine escape before mine enemies! Wilt thou make my path straight before me! Wilt thou not place a stumbling block in my way—but that thou wouldst clear my way before me, and hedge not up my way, but the ways of mine enemy.

34 O Lord, I have trusted in thee, and I will trust in thee forever. I will not put my trust in the arm of flesh; for I know that cursed is he that putteth his trust in the arm of flesh. Yea, cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm.

35 Yea, I know that God will give liberally to him that asketh. Yea, my God will give me, if I ask not amiss; therefore I will lift up my voice unto thee; yea, I will cry unto thee, my God, the rock of my righteousness. Behold, my voice shall forever ascend up unto thee, my rock and mine everlasting God. Amen.


Grace in Elder Bednar’s talk, “The Atonement and the Journey of Mortality”


(This morning I’m looking at Elder Bednar’s talk “The Atonement and the Journey of Mortality,” which was listed in the New Youth Curriculum for March 2013.)

Talking about Grace as an “enabling power” is actually more confusing to me than using the word Grace. I realize some people who have been in the Church longer than me have a different connotation of the word Grace than I do, so I think I that for many thinking of it as an enabling power is helpful to undo that connotation. Since Elder Bednar used that phrase often in his talk, it was a bit distracting for me. But I think I like what he is saying about the “good to better” route – I think he is trying to explain consecration without ever saying that word. 🙂

In addition, I thought this was some nice scriptural work:

You legitimately may be wondering, “What makes the episode with Alma and his people an example of the enabling power of the Atonement?” The answer is found in a comparison of Mosiah 3:19 and Mosiah 24:15.

“And putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father” (Mosiah 3:19; emphasis added).

As we progress in the journey of mortality from bad to good to better, as we put off the natural man or woman in each of us, and as we strive to become saints and have our very natures changed, then the attributes detailed in this verse increasingly should describe the type of person you and I are becoming. We will become more childlike, more submissive, more patient, and more willing to submit.

Now compare these characteristics in Mosiah 3:19 with those used to describe Alma and his people: “And they did submit cheerfully and with patience to all the will of the Lord” (Mosiah 24:15; emphasis added).

I find the parallels between the attributes described in these verses striking and an indication that Alma’s good people were becoming a better people through the enabling power of the Atonement of Christ the Lord.

I like the clear similarities between these too verses! And I think I’m catching on to what he means by praying to be able to change circumstances, instead of praying for our circumstances to be changed.

When I talk about that idea I use different words, so I’m still realizing we’re probably talking about the same thing. I like to go to 2 Nephi 1-3, where Lehi tells Jacob that God will “consecrate thine afflictions.” I like the wording there, of taking something bad and making it sacred. It also reminds me of the talk “Come What May and Love it.” I like thinking that no matter what happens to us, God can use it for good. You can’t throw anything at Him that He can’t hit. 🙂 And so I think Elder Bednar is talking about much the same thing. No matter what happens to us, God can help us work with the situation so that good can come of it. And of course, Elder Bednar uses the idea of “acting” instead of being “acted upon.” He uses that language with learning too. It’s a nice way to put it, though not my normal way of talking, like I was saying.

Some initial thoughts. Now to get the kids some breakfast.