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Answering for sins

I’m still thinking on this topic after last week’s study group. For now I just wanted to record some verses that are getting me/us thinking:

  • 2 Nephi 2:7

    7 Behold, he offereth himself a sacrifice for sin, to answer the ends of the law, unto all those who have a broken heart and a contrite spirit; and unto none else can the ends of the law be answered.

  • Jacob 1:19

    19 And we did magnify our office unto the Lord, taking upon us the responsibility, answering the sins of the people upon our own heads if we did not teach them the word of God with all diligence; wherefore, by laboring with our might their blood might not come upon our garments; otherwise their blood would come upon our garments, and we would not be found spotless at the last day.

  • Jacob 3:10

    10 Wherefore, ye shall remember your children, how that ye have grieved their hearts because of the example that ye have set before them; and also, remember that ye may, because of your filthiness, bring your children unto destruction, and their sins be heaped upon your heads at the last day.

    (also verse 9:Wherefore, a commandment I give unto you, which is the word of God, that ye revile no more against them because of the darkness of their skins; neither shall ye revile against them because of their filthiness; but ye shall remember your own filthiness, and remember that their filthiness came because of their fathers.)

  • Mosiah 2:28

    28 I say unto you that I have caused that ye should assemble yourselves together that I might rid my garments of your blood, at this period of time when I am about to go down to my grave, that I might go down in peace, and my immortal spirit may join the choirs above in singing the praises of a just God.

  • Mosiah 29:30

    30 And I command you to do these things in the fear of the Lord; and I command you to do these things, and that ye have no king; that if these people commit sins and iniquities they shall be answered upon their own heads.

  • Mosiah 29:31

    31 For behold I say unto you, the sins of many people have been caused by the iniquities of their kings; therefore their iniquities are answered upon the heads of their kings.

  • Mosiah 29:38

    38 Therefore they relinquished their desires for a king, and became exceedingly anxious that every man should have an equal chance throughout all the land; yea, and every man expressed a willingness to answer for his own sins.

  • Mormon 9:35

    35 And these things are written that we may rid our garments of the blood of our brethren, who have dwindled in unbelief.

  • Ether 12:38

    38 And now I, Moroni, bid farewell unto the Gentiles, yea, and also unto my brethren whom I love, until we shall meet before the judgment-seat of Christ, where all men shall know that my garments are not spotted with your blood.

  • Moses 6:54

    54 Hence came the saying abroad among the people, that the Son of God hath atoned for original guilt, wherein the sins of the parents cannot be answered upon the heads of the children, for they are whole from the foundation of the world.

Moroni’s final words + title page

(Just for fun, I wanted to see what it would sound like to read Moroni’s final words in connection with the title page, since that was also written at the end of the Book of Mormon. Here’s how the title page and at least some of Moroni 10 sound back to back:)

The Book of Mormon: An Account Written by the Hand of Mormon upon Plates Taken from the Plates of Nephi

Wherefore, it is an abridgment of the record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites—Written to the Lamanites, who are a remnant of the house of Israel; and also to Jew and Gentile—Written by way of commandment, and also by the spirit of prophecy and of revelation—Written and sealed up, and hid up unto the Lord, that they might not be destroyed—To come forth by the gift and power of God unto the interpretation thereof—Sealed by the hand of Moroni, and hid up unto the Lord, to come forth in due time by way of the Gentile—The interpretation thereof by the gift of God.

An abridgment taken from the Book of Ether also, which is a record of the people of Jared, who were scattered at the time the Lord confounded the language of the people, when they were building a tower to get to heaven—Which is to show unto the remnant of the house of Israel what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; and that they may know the covenants of the Lord, that they are not cast off forever—And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations—And now, if there are faults they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment-seat of Christ.

(Moroni 10:)

Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.

And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

And whatsoever thing is good is just and true; wherefore, nothing that is good denieth the Christ, but acknowledgeth that he is.

And ye may know that he is, by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore I would exhort you that ye deny not the power of God; for he worketh by power, according to the faith of the children of men, the same today and tomorrow, and forever.

And again, I exhort you, my brethren, that ye deny not the gifts of God, for they are many; and they come from the same God. And there are different ways that these gifts are administered; but it is the same God who worketh all in all; and they are given by the manifestations of the Spirit of God unto men, to profit them.

30 And again I would exhort you that ye would come unto Christ, and lay hold upon every good gift, and touch not the evil gift, nor the unclean thing.

31 And awake, and arise from the dust, O Jerusalem; yea, and put on thy beautiful garments, O daughter of Zion; and strengthen thy stakes and enlarge thy borders forever, that thou mayest no more be confounded, that the covenants of the Eternal Father which he hath made unto thee, O house of Israel, may be fulfilled.

32 Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.

33 And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot.

34 And now I bid unto all, farewell. I soon go to rest in the paradise of God, until my spirit and body shall again reunite, and I am brought forth triumphant through the air, to meet you before the pleasing bar of the great Jehovah, the Eternal Judge of both quick and dead. Amen.

“Being right” doesn’t matter?

[I mean to work on this lots more, but in case I don’t (I’m known to forget about those saved drafts of mine), here it is, as a work in progress]


We also try to come up with explanations of why things are as they are. We speculate, we think, we reason, to try to understand why doctrines or principles are what they are. And doing so doesn’t make us unfaithful; often, this is an act of worship, to use our minds as well as our hearts. It is also possible to lose sight of that act as worship. It is possible to flip the order around, so that our minds’ reasons become frighteningly serious to us. Anxiety pushes us on to figure out what is real or reasonable, in order that we might act correctly and worship correctly. Fear of being wrong restrains our heart. Worship is put on hold or at least at distance. Rejoicing is paralyzed.

How do we reverse this order, or return to our sincere following out of doctrine and scripture, even though we have realized our potential to mess things up entirely? When is it safe to act?

How do we, in some sense, return to being like a child, after having our eyes opened?

The answer, I believe, comes in the form of grace. Certainly that is no shocking answer, but I hope to share another way of thinking about that path – from child, to adult, and somehow going on to a “child” again, in a forward direction, not backward.

Here grace might be coming in a surprising manner. Here’s the shocker: it doesn’t actually hold up God’s work when we get things wrong. When we misinterpret. Or when others oppress. Or even have ill intentions. Even though they aren’t good, they don’t actually matter.

Now, why would I say such a thing? Here’s why. God is very good at working within whatever situation we humans come up with or find ourselves in. Very good. Amazing, in fact. Actually, it might just be what makes God so real to me – He is so powerful, He can use any thing for good.

Or, we might say:

“[God’s] grace is sufficient for the meek … and [His] grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before [Him]; for if they humble themselves before [Him], and have faith in [Him], then will [He] make weak things become strong unto them.”

We typically interpret to this verse to mean we can work at things we aren’t good at and become good at them. And, to stay true to the point of my post, I think that is still productive and I can certainly see how God works within that interpretation to bless lives. However, I don’t think that is what Moroni and God were talking about together that day. Moroni is worried that his weakness in writing, his inability to write clearly or powerfully (or whatever exactly he wished he could do) was going to make the Gentiles mock – and hence – the work of the latter-days would be frustrated. That’s a lot of guilt he felt! His lack was going to hold back the work of God!

Like we often do to, and has been done over and over again throughout our history, he was taking what he knew of God’s word and thinking from there. From the small plates, he would have known that his people were going to be destroyed but redeemed someday. And that this record was very important. And, that the Gentiles were going to take this record to his people. Therefore, this record better attract their attention and convert them, otherwise his people were toast! (And he had just abridged a record of a Gentile group – the Jaredites – who didn’t take the words of prophets all too seriously!)

So you can see his concern. But what was God’s response? God says I know you can’t write well. I gave you weakness. And I give everyone weakness. That doesn’t matter. In fact, it’s what opens up the relationship between man and God. And as far as the Book of Mormon goes, I’ll use that weakness to my aims: as Gentiles have faith and come to me, I’ll make your weak book strong to them.

Or, we can also see it this way (from 2 Nephi 3:21): “the weakness of their words will I make strong in their faith, unto the remembering of my covenant which I made unto thy fathers.” The weak words (God confirms here Moroni’s concern!will still be just as weak as ever, but because they teach the people of the covenant they are a life-source that strengthens them. The weak umilical cord that is the Book of Mormon will still be brings the strength from the fathers to the later Nephites and Lamanites. God worked with it anyway! (And personally I love the Book of Mormon as it is… I’m not saying it’s a pathetic book or anything. But even though it is weak in Moroni’s eyes or perhaps just the fact that it is a book,   which is much easier to ignore than an angel etc., God is still doing His great work through it! Weakness doesn’t actually matter, as long as there is faith.

or, we might say,

“And behold, in thy childhood thou hast suffered afflictions and much sorrow, because of the rudeness of thy brethren. Nevertheless, … thou knowest the greatness of God; and he shall consecrate thine afflictions for thy gain.

Even though Jacob had suffered much, even though Laman and Lemuel had been unfair and caused a very hard life for Jacob, did that stop God’s work? Nope. Even when our weakness is something given to us by another person, even when we are the ones suffering for false ideas or ways of living, it’s okay. Why? Because God consecrates those very sufferings… for our gain!

It doesn’t matter what the source – our personal weakness, or others’ mistakes or even intentional hurt, God can turn it for good. Or, as Joseph says it, nothing can stand in the way of God’s work – nothing! His power is real, and His grace is real –

“How long can rolling waters remain impure? What power shall stay the heavens? As well might man stretch forth his puny arm to stop the Missouri river in its decreed course, or to turn it up stream, as to hinder the Almighty from pouring down knowledge from heaven upon the heads of the Latter-day Saints.”

Just a few things I’ve been thinking about lately…

Pieces put together

[WARNING: THIS IS MOSTLY OLD BLOG POSTS STUCK TOGETHER IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET AN OUTLINE OF MY NEW PAPER TOGETHER!] I’m editing it slowly 🙂 But I have a plan now! whoo-hoo! Continue reading

D&C 46 and Mormon 9:28

To finish up this tangent, here is the other reference to “consume” and “lusts” from Moroni’s writings: Continue reading